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Question – Isn’t Tantra a way of Indulgence?<\/span><\/h3>\n

Osho – IT IS NOT. It is the ONLY way to get out of indulgence. It is the only way to get out of sexuality. No other way has ever been helpful for man; all other ways have made man more and more sexual. Sex has not disappeared. The religions have made it only more poisoned. It is still there \u2013 in a poisoned form. Yes, guilt has arisen in man, but sex has not disappeared. It CANNOT disappear because it is a biological-reality. It is existential; it cannot simply disappear by repressing it. It can disappear only when you become so alien that you can release the energy encapsulated in sexuality \u2013 not by repression is the energy released, but by understanding.<\/span><\/p>\n

And once the energy is released, out of the mud the lotus…. The lotus has to come UP out of the mud, it has to go higher, and repression takes it deeper into the mud. It goes on repressing it. What you have done up to now, the whole humanity, is repressing sex in the mud of the unconscious. Go on repressing it, sit on top of it; don\u2019t allow it to move; kill it by fasting, by discipline, by going to a cave in the Himalayas, by moving to a monastery where a woman is not allowed. There are monasteries where a woman has never entered for hundreds of years; there are monasteries where only nuns have lived and a man has never entered. These are ways of repressing. AND they create more and more sexuality and more and more dreams of indulgence.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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No, Tantra is not a way of indulgence. It is the only way of freedom. Tantra says: Whatsoever is has to be understood and through understanding changes occur of their own accord. So listening to me or listening to Saraha, don\u2019t start thinking that Saraha is supporting your indulgence. You will be in bad shape if you accept that.<\/p>\n

Listen to this story: An elderly gent named Martin went to a doctor for an examination. \u201dI want you to tell me what\u2019s wrong, doctor. I feel some pains here and there, and I can\u2019t understand it. I\u2019ve lived a very clean life \u2013 no smoking, drinking or running around. I\u2019m in bed, alone, at nine o\u2019clock every night. Why should I feel this way?\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201dHow old are you?\u201d asked the doctor.<\/p>\n

\u201dI\u2019ll be seventy-four on my next birthday,\u201d said Martin.<\/p>\n

The doctor answered, \u201dAfter all, you\u2019re getting on in years, you\u2019ve got to expect things like that. But you\u2019ve lots of time left yet. Just take it easy, and don\u2019t worry. I suggest you go to Hot Springs.\u201d<\/p>\n

So Martin went to Hot Springs. There he met another gent who looked so old and decrepit that Martin felt encouraged by the comparison. \u201dBrother,\u201d says Martin, \u201dyou sure must have taken good care of yourself, living to such a ripe old age. I\u2019ve lived a quiet, clean life, but not like you, I\u2019ll bet. What is your formula for obtaining a ripe old age like you have reached?\u201d<\/p>\n

So this shriveled old guy says, \u201dOn the contrary, sir. When I was seventeen my father told me,\u2019Son, you go and enjoy life. Eat, drink and be merry to your heart\u2019s content. Live life to the fullest. Instead of marrying one woman, be a bachelor and have ten. Spend your money for fun, for yourself, instead of on a wife and kids.\u2019 Yeah: wine, women and song, life lived to the full. That\u2019s been my policy all my life, brother!\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201dSounds like you got something,\u201d said Martin. \u201dHow old are you\u2019?\u201d<\/p>\n

The other answered, \u201dTwenty-four.\u201d<\/p>\n

Indulgence is suicidal \u2013 as suicidal as repression. These are the two extremes that Buddha says to avoid. One extreme is repression, the other extreme is indulgence. Just be in the middle; neither be repressive, nor be indulgent. Just be in the middle, watchful, alert, aware. It is your life! Neither does it have to be repressed, nor does it have to be wasted \u2013 it has to be understood. It is your life \u2013 take care of it! love it! befriend it! If you can befriend your life, it will reveal many mysteries to you, it will take you to the very door of God.<\/p>\n

But Tantra is not indulgence at all. The repressive people have always thought that Tantra is indulgence; their minds are so much obsessed. For example: a man who goes to a monastery and lives there without ever seeing a woman, how can he believe that Saraha is not indulging when he lives with a woman? Not only lives but practises strange things: sitting before the woman naked, the woman is naked, and he goes on watching the woman; or even while making love to the woman he goes on watching.<\/p>\n

Now, you cannot watch his watching; you can see only that he is making love to a woman. And if you are repressive, your whole repressed sexuality will bubble up. You must start going mad! And you will project all that you have repressed in yourself on Saraha \u2013 and Saraha is not doing anything like that; he is moving in a totally different dimension. He is not really interested in the body: he wants to see what this sexuality is; he wants to see what this appeal of orgasm is; he wants to see what exactly orgasm is; he wants to be meditative in that peak moment, so that he can find the clue and the key… maybe there is the key to open the door of the Divine.<\/p>\n

In fact, it is there. God has hidden the key in your sexuality. On the one hand, through your sex, life survives; that is only partial use of your sex energy. On another hand, if you move with full awareness in your sex energy, you will find that you have come across a key that can help you to enter into eternal life. One small aspect of sex is that your children will live. The other aspect, a higher aspect, is that you can live in eternity. Sex energy is life energy.<\/p>\n

Ordinarily we don\u2019t move further than the porch, we never go into the palace. Saraha is trying to go into the palace. Now, the people who came to the king, they must have been suppressed people as all people are suppressed. The politician and the priest HAVE to teach suppression,. because it is only through suppression that people are driven insane. And you can rule insane people more easily than sane people. And when people are insane in their sex energy, they start moving in other directions \u2013 money they will start moving towards, or power, or prestige. They have to show their sex energy somewhere or other; it is boiling there \u2013 they have to release it in some way or other. So money-madness or power-addiction, they become their releases.<\/p>\n

This whole society is sex-obsessed. If sex-obsession disappears from the world, people will not be money-mad. Who will bother about money? And people will not be bothered by power. Nobody will like to become a president or a prime minister \u2013 for what?! Life is so tremendously beautiful in its ordinariness, it is so superb in its ordinariness, why should one want to become somebody? By being nobody it is so delicious \u2013 nothing is missing. But if you destroy people\u2019s sexuality and make them repressed, so much is missing that they are always hankering: somewhere there must be joy \u2013 here it is missing.<\/p>\n

Sex is one of the activities given by nature and God in which you are thrown again and again to the present moment. Ordinarily you are never in the present \u2013 except when you are making love, and then too for a few seconds only. Tantra says one has to understand sex, to decode sex. If sex is so vital that life comes out of it, then there must be something more to it. That something more is the key towards Divinity, towards God.<\/p>\n

Source – Osho Book “The Tantra Vision, Vol 1”<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" ","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[67,165,47],"tags":[49,2,32,48],"class_list":["post-172","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-discourses","category-osho","category-osho-isnt-tantra-a-way-of-indulgence","tag-indulgence","tag-osho","tag-sex","tag-tantra"],"yoast_head":"\nIsn't Tantra a way of Indulgence? - Guru Quote<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Osho - IT IS NOT. 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