{"id":5967,"date":"2018-05-01T16:04:01","date_gmt":"2018-05-01T16:04:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/guruquote.net\/?p=5967"},"modified":"2018-05-01T16:09:15","modified_gmt":"2018-05-01T16:09:15","slug":"osho-gurdjieffs-wife-enlightenment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/guruquote.net\/index.php\/2018\/05\/01\/osho-gurdjieffs-wife-enlightenment\/","title":{"rendered":"OSHO on Gurdjieff&#8217;s Wife Enlightenment"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mp-row-fluid motopress-row mpce-dsbl-margin-left mpce-dsbl-margin-right\">\n<div class=\"motopress-clmn mp-span12  mpce-dsbl-margin-left mpce-dsbl-margin-right\">\n<div class=\"mp-row-fluid motopress-row mpce-dsbl-margin-left mpce-dsbl-margin-right\">\n<div class=\"motopress-clmn mp-span12 mpce-dsbl-margin-left mpce-dsbl-margin-right\">\n<p>Question: Beloved Osho, Gurdjieff was accused of trying to keep his wife alive while she was dying. His disciples seem shocked and didn\u2019t understand. In what way was he trying to help her that he was unable to do before she Was dying?<\/p>\n<p>Osho: The 1917 revolution in Russia disturbed Gurdjieff\u2019s whole work. His disciples got scattered. He himself had to escape out of Russia because the communists, who were coming into power, were materialists: they did not believe in any spiritual growth. They conceived of man just as a vegetable. But Gurdjieff managed to take with him a small group of disciples who had developed and crystallized very much. His wife happened to be one of them.<\/p>\n<p>They remained in Constantinople waiting for some opportunity to settle somewhere. It was in Constantinople that they were found by Bennett and brought to Europe. First he wanted to settle in England, but it seems no country \u2013 because of its politicians\u2019 mediocre minds \u2013 wants any giant to settle there. They cannot accept anybody who knows more, who is more; and Gurdjieff was a very strong, powerful, charismatic man \u2013 whoever came into contact with him was changed. England refused. Country after country refused him.<\/p>\n<p>It was just by chance that the prime minister of France had read a few of his books and was immensely impressed. He invited him, and gave him a beautiful place near Paris, a few miles away, where he established his commune. In that commune there were two sections. One was the old-guard Russians who had come with him, who were far more developed than the new followers from the West \u2013 particularly from America. The difficulty was double.<\/p>\n<p>First, the Russian group knew only Russian, so communication was impossible. Second, they were highly developed, and these new people were highly educated but spiritually not developed at all. Those Russians were not very educated. So there was another barrier of communication \u2013 intellectually they could not communicate, language prevented it, education prevented it, and on the plane of being also, communication was difficult because the Russian group was far more developed \u2013 Gurdjieff had been working for years with them.<\/p>\n<p>The oldest disciple was his own wife. And it became troublesome to people, particularly the new group: \u201dWhy should Gurdjieff be so interested in his own wife?\u201d It was not a question of being his wife; that was irrelevant. The question was that he had worked on the woman the most, and she was dying. And it was only a question of a few days \u2013 if he could manage to keep her alive her crystallization will happen. Otherwise one knows not into how many circles of birth and death she would have to move.<\/p>\n<p>And he was capable of keeping her alive, because in his system, transfer of energy is one of the basic methods. It can be used to the extreme \u2013 that the dying person can live as much as the person who is transmitting his energy to him; if he transmits his whole energy he will die immediately, and the dying person can live long. Gurdjieff was not trying to sacrifice anybody, but everybody could contribute a little bit of energy to his wife. And it was only a question of a few more days of good health, so she can continue the work.<\/p>\n<p>She had almost reached, just a step more and she would not be coming back. But the Western group could not understand why he was so interested: a man who is enlightened should look equally towards everybody \u2013 whether one is his wife or not. But they were ignorant of the fact that he was not looking after his wife, he was looking after a human being who happened to be his wife, but who was in such a position that just a few days\u2019 health would release her forever from every imprisonment. It was worth doing.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>And he managed it \u2013 his wife died enlightened.<\/em><\/strong> This is possible in a school. If we see that somebody has developed so much that there is no harm if everybody else contributes a little energy&#8230; so that the person can continue more in the body and come to fulfillment. Alone it is not possible: it is not the way of the monk, it is the way of a mystery school. And Gurdjieff himself had learned all his techniques, all his experiences, in Sufi schools. He was never a monk; that\u2019s why no religious recognition has been given to him.<\/p>\n<p>And Sufi schools keep their techniques very secret. Gurdjieff was the first to bring them to light in the Western world. Sufis were not happy, and the Western world was shocked because they were used to thinking of religion in a totally different way: \u201dWhat he is talking about does not seem to be religion. He\u2019s talking almost as if it is a science\u201d \u2013 and he was right, it is a science. Just because of religious persecution, many mystery schools have kept themselves underground and have worked without anybody\u2019s knowledge.<\/p>\n<p>Even if the husband is part of a mystery school, his wife does not know about it \u2013 because the church, the orthodox religion, will immediately start persecuting him. So it is better to keep silent, and do what you want to do in a secret way. Gurdjieff\u2019s intention was to make all those secrets available to a wider number of people \u2013 in which he failed, not because of himself but because of the masses. They are deaf; they cannot listen to anything that is so new and goes against their well-trodden path.<\/p>\n<p>Of this caring for the wife, trying to keep her alive, the ordinary mediocre mind will think, \u201dThis is attachment. He\u2019s too much attached to his wife. And a man who is so much attached to his wife cannot be enlightened.\u201d These are the mediocre minds\u2019 logical standpoints; and other mediocre minds will agree perfectly all over the world. The wife has to be renounced! \u2013 but here it is something else. He\u2019s trying to keep her in the body, not letting her die.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mp-row-fluid motopress-row mpce-dsbl-margin-left mpce-dsbl-margin-right\">\n<div class=\"motopress-clmn mp-span12 mpce-dsbl-margin-left mpce-dsbl-margin-right\">\n<div class=\"motopress-image-obj motopress-text-align-left\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/guruquote.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/gurdjieffphoto5.jpg?fit=227%2C280&ssl=1\" title=\"gurdjieffphoto5\" alt=\"Gurdjieff's Wife wife Enlightenment Question: Beloved Osho, Gurdjieff was accused of trying to keep his wife alive while she was dying. His disciples seem shocked and didn\u2019t understand. In what way was he trying to help her that he was unable to do before she Was dying? Osho: The 1917 revolution in Russia disturbed Gurdjieff\u2019s whole work. His disciples got scattered. He himself had to escape out of Russia because the communists, who were coming into power, were materialists: they did not believe in any spiritual growth. They conceived of man just as a vegetable. But Gurdjieff managed to take with him a small group of disciples who had developed and crystallized very much. His wife happened to be one of them. They remained in Constantinople waiting for some opportunity to settle somewhere. It was in Constantinople that they were found by Bennett and brought to Europe. First he wanted to settle in England, but it seems no country \u2013 because of its politicians\u2019 mediocre minds \u2013 wants any giant to settle there. 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