{"id":7290,"date":"2018-10-10T18:28:01","date_gmt":"2018-10-10T18:28:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/guruquote.net\/?p=7290"},"modified":"2018-10-10T18:28:01","modified_gmt":"2018-10-10T18:28:01","slug":"osho-on-ramakrishna-paramhansa-and-keshav-chandra-sen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/guruquote.net\/index.php\/2018\/10\/10\/osho-on-ramakrishna-paramhansa-and-keshav-chandra-sen\/","title":{"rendered":"Osho on Ramakrishna Paramhansa and Keshav Chandra Sen"},"content":{"rendered":"

Osho – I have told you the story of Ramakrishna and Keshav Chandra Sen. Keshav Chandra was one of the most intelligent people of his time. He founded a religion just on his intellectual philosophy, brahmasamaj, the society for God. And he had hundreds and thousands of intelligent people, a very intelligent group, as his followers. And he was puzzled that this uneducated Ramakrishna, who had not even completed the primary school \u2013 in India the primary school, the lowest school, takes four years; he had done only half…. Why were thousands of people going to this idiot?<\/p>\n

That was in Keshav Chandra Sen\u2019s mind. Finally he decided he had to go and defeat this man, because he could not think that the man could not be defeated by argument. That was impossible for him to imagine. This idiot from a small village is collecting thousands of people every day! From far and wide people are coming to see him, and to touch his feet!
\nKeshav Chandra with his followers informed Ramakrishna: \u201dI am coming on such and such a day to challenge you on every point in which you believe. Be ready!\u201d Ramakrishna\u2019s followers were very much afraid.<\/p>\n

They knew Keshav Chandra was a great logician; poor Ramakrishna would not be able to answer anything. But Ramakrishna was very joyful, he danced. He said, \u201dI have been waiting all this time. When Keshav Chandra comes that will be a great day of joy!\u201d<\/p>\n

His disciples said, \u201dWhat are you saying? That will be a day of great sadness, because you cannot argue with him.\u201d<\/p>\n

Ramakrishna said, \u201dWait. Who is going to argue with him? I don\u2019t need to argue. Let him come.\u201d But his disciples were shaky, very shaky, very much afraid that their master was going to be defeated, completely crushed. They knew Keshav Chandra. In that century there was no parallel to Keshav Chandra\u2019s intelligence in this country.<\/p>\n

And Keshav Chandra came with one hundred of his topmost disciples to see the argument, the debate, the challenge. Ramakrishna was standing on the road to receive him, far away from the temple where he used to live. And he hugged Keshav Chandra. And Keshav Chandra felt a little embarrassed, and that embarrassment went on growing.<\/p>\n

Ramakrishna took his hand in his hand and took him inside. He said, \u201dI have been waiting and waiting for years. Why did you not come before?\u201d<\/p>\n

Keshav Chandra said, \u201dHe seems to be a strange man, seems not to be afraid at all. Do you understand? I have come here for a discussion!\u201d<\/p>\n

Ramakrishna said, \u201dOf course.\u201d<\/p>\n

So they sat near the temple by the side of the Ganges, a beautiful place, under a tree.<\/p>\n

And Ramakrishna said, \u201dStart.\u201d<\/p>\n

So Keshav Chandra asked him, \u201dWhat do you say about God?\u201d
\nRamakrishna said, \u201dHave I to say anything about God? Can\u2019t you see God in my eyes?\u201d<\/p>\n

Keshav Chandra looked a little puzzled \u2013 \u201dWhat kind of argument is this?\u201d
\nAnd Ramakrishna said, \u201dCan\u2019t you feel God in my hand? Come closer, boy.\u201d<\/p>\n

And Keshav Chandra said, \u201dWhat kind of argument…?\u201d He had been in many debates, he had defeated many great scholars, and this villager… In Hindi the word for idiot is gamar, but it actually means the villager. gaon means village, and gamar means from the village. But gamar is used as stupid, retarded, idiot.<\/p>\n

Ramakrishna said, \u201dIf you can understand the language of my eyes, if you can understand the energy of my hand, you are proof enough that existence is intelligent. Where have you got your intelligence from?\u201d<\/p>\n

This was a grand argument. He was saying, \u201dIf you have got this great intelligence \u2013 and I know you are a highly intelligent person; I have always loved you \u2013 tell me from where it comes? If existence is without intelligence you cannot get it. From where? You are the proof that existence is intelligent, and that is what I mean by God. To me God is not somebody sitting on a cloud. To me God simply means existence is not unintelligent. It is an intelligent universe; we belong and we are needed. It rejoices in our rejoicings, it celebrates in our celebrations, it dances with our dance. Have you seen my dance?\u201d \u2013 and he started dancing.<\/p>\n

Keshav Chandra said, \u201dWhat to do!\u201d But he danced so beautifully. He was a good dancer, because he used to dance in the temple sometimes from morning till evening \u2013 no coffee break! He would dance and dance till he would fall on the ground.<\/p>\n

So he started dancing with such joy and such grace that suddenly there was a transformation in Keshav Chandra. He forgot all his logic, he saw the beauty of this man, he saw the splendor of this man, he saw a joy which he had never felt.
\nAll that intellect, all those arguments were just superficial, inside there was utter emptiness. This man was so overflowing.<\/p>\n

He touched the feet of Ramakrishna and said, \u201dForgive me. I was absolutely wrong about you. I know nothing, and I have been just philosophizing. You know everything, and you are not saying a single word.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

Ramakrishna said, \u201dI will forgive you only on one condition.\u201d
\nKeshav Chandra said, \u201dAny condition from your side. I am ready.\u201d<\/p>\n

Ramakrishna said, \u201dThe condition is that once in a while you have to come to discuss with me, to debate with me, to challenge me.\u201d<\/p>\n

This is the way of a mystic; and Keshav Chandra was completely finished. He became a totally different man; he started to come every day. Soon his disciples deserted him: \u201dHe has gone mad. That madman infected him so much. There was only one madman, now there are two. He is even dancing with him.\u201d<\/p>\n

But Keshav Chandra, who had been a sad man, grudging, complaining about everything, because he was living in a negative space, suddenly blossomed, flowers came to his being, a new fragrance. He forgot all logic. This man helped him have a taste of something that is beyond mind. Zen is the method to go beyond mind. So we will be discussing God and Zen together. God has to be negated, and Zen has to be planted deep in your being. The lie has to be destroyed and the truth has to be revealed. That\u2019s why I have chosen God and Zen together. God is a lie, Zen is a truth.
\n<\/span><\/p>\n

Source: “<\/span>God is Dead, Now Zen is the Only Living Truth<\/a>” by Osho<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" ","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[595,165,163,601],"tags":[131,616,603],"class_list":["post-7290","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-god","category-osho","category-ramakrishna","category-teachings","tag-ramakrishna","tag-soho","tag-teachings"],"yoast_head":"\nOsho on Ramakrishna Paramhansa and Keshav Chandra Sen - 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